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Rob (c137)'s avatar

It's a scam indeed.

I knew it was BS when the east went along with the western covid shamdemic.

This was the intent... But they didn't have a deadly virus to truly enact it and they failed.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/covid

Also, BRICS denied Venezuela membership because a single nation, Brazil, blocked it.

That sounds just like the UN where single veto power can stop things.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Yep that Venezuela block was total BS

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Goblins Under the Apple Tree's avatar

When I first read this:

“The only way to make sense of it is to place a financial criminocracy at the top of the pyramid. Russia and Germany combined were certainly regarded as a real threat to the Anglo-American empire at the turn of the 20th century, until that threat was largely neutralised with the two world wars. But that is for another essay.”

I MISread it assuming you were going along with the customary view of WW2. I fired off a comment on the work of Guido Giacomo Preparata before realising that you were saying what he was saying i.e. that Russia and Germany were deliberately set against each other by the Western forces.

All of which prompts me to make a sad confession. Ever since the “covid coup” of 2020, I have been desperately seeking some Leftist with (if you’ll pardon the expression) the slightest fucking clue as to what is going on. Because it was precisely that covid coup that caused the biggest “reformation” in what we might call the political public consciousness.

The initial “shudder” happened on Off-Guardian when all those Marxists got snooty over covid scepticism. One lectured us all on how covid-as-scam “isn’t how capitalism works”. He based this wondrous insight on the “fact” that a confidence trick such as this “had never happened before”. To which I ask, “How do you know?” and “Even if it hasn’t happened before, why can’t it happen now?”

But that jerk laid the groundwork for every single “Marxist” response I’ve seen since. Even those who seem to only now be coming to the realisation that they’ve “been had” use a rhetoric that seems irrelevant and even archaic to me. They all seem to be fighting old battles and relegating their efforts to “permissible dissent”.

The biggest elephant in the room is the global “response” to covid. In the light of that it’s impossible to view any country’s government anywhere as some kind of serious threat to this current power structure

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Goblins Under the Apple Tree's avatar

I’ve been thinking about this more and more and I’ve had this constantly recurring experience with “The Left”. I find some “micro-community” – basically a little group of like-minded Leftists happy to encourage chat and it all goes well for a little while ... until you offend against some shibboleth and one of them goes crazy and derides you and then bans you. There’s no discussion about your offensive comment. No attempt even to try and explain where you “went wrong”. And it’s not even that I disagree with THEIR disagreement. Many times they get annoyed at some anti-Marxist article which can indeed be taken apart and usually very easily BUT THEY DON’T DO THAT! They just get all supercilious and preening.

They don’t seem to understand that you have to come down from that fabled ivory tower and talk to people who may well not know what you know. Talk to them! Reason with them! Accept variations. Consider alternatives.

But instead – it’s ban ban ban. They take the huff. Like little schoolkids. And this from the side that’s always talking about “solidarity”!

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Kieran Telo's avatar

Two great comments, I feel your sense of exile too. The force of cancellation is the impulse to scapegoat, to drive out, and it's very powerful and much more rooted in human psychology than the Right-Left kabuki.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

I think this is ultimately about levels of consciousness, which sounds holier-than-thou, but it's bloody well true! They're not in it for the sake of getting to the truth. They're in it for the sake of adopting an identity, finding a position that fits that identity, then finding a crowd that shares their position and identity. That's why there's no attempt at a process of debate to find out if what they're thinking is true. They have what they were looking for - an identity and a group to share it with. That's why you get booted if you threaten that.

Now, I'm not saying we're right because we're more interested in the truth. I'm just saying we are not prone to giving everyone the red card because they disagree with us. I'll be the first to admit it's uncomfortable to be told you're WRONG! But one's default position has to be to deal with the REASONS why someone told you that you were wrong, as opposed to dealing with the PERSON who told you were wrong! In good old sporting terms, play the ball not the man! That way, the game ends well, even if you lost, and you can still enjoy a drink in the pub with your opponent after the game.

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Stegiel's avatar

Until the Democrats proclaimed Humanitarian aid to the Contras (guns, uniforms, boots etc) was saving Nicaragua I was only half convinced the Left wing of the party existed. Afterwards I recognized my error. I think in the USA there is no Left.

Later I read Berdyaev and his Marxist critique from his Russian insider view. His critique starts with Marxist ideology reduces human beings to economic and class categories, ignoring their inner life, moral freedom, and divine image. He favored freedom of spirit. He thought as an Orthodox thinker that Marxism imitated Christianity and was a secular perversion calling for "Revolution" instead of human salvation. Last he saw the totalitarian visage. Then the opposite of human freedom as human slavery. Even later I encountered Volin who was also anti-Bolshevik and anti-Party. (good short bio) https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSvolin.htm.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Thank you, will get into that!

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Yes. Glad you got what I was saying! I am a complete convert to the Preparata interpretation of the 2 world wars and how the Anglo-American Establishment duped Germany so thoroughly in order to extinguish the threat articulated by MacKinder. Neo Liberal Feudalism put me onto his book and I haven't looked back since then.

I am now reading Two World Wars and Hitler by MacGregor and O'Dowd and it is simply brilliant. Those chaps are utterly masterful. It is the only way to truly grasp the meaning of the 2 world wars. Preparata definitely gives you the big picture but wading through his financial explanations is like wading through quicksand. MacGregor and O'Dowd's account is just sheer beauty and ruthless logic. An absolute joy and relief. It's also a page turner!

As for the left, you and I could have a competition to see who is more disgusted with them and I am certain I would win! I say that as a former leftie. I read some drivel by Chris Hedges the other day. The best the Left can do is call the right "stupid". This, after 5 yrs of total chaos and accelerationism. That's the best that the leftist intelligentsia can offer. Their heads are so far up Marx's mummified arse, they cannot see what's right in front of them. Even Varoufakis who has a brain and sees the dangers of the digitalisation agenda, does not want to add 2+2.

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Helen's avatar

Eewww, yuk! (The arse)

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Goblins Under the Apple Tree's avatar

For the record I think that Marx himself would be disgusted and would say, "Don't take what I say for gospel. Always question. And never be afraid to throw out anything that no longer fits."

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Helen's avatar

Well researched and entertaining as ever. It's getting pretty hard for the OCGFC to hide what they're up to, isn't it.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

We can hope!

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Helen's avatar

Well, I'm seeing it, and I definitely wasn't a few years ago, so that's a plus!

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Hi Rusere, great post. The world is definitely centralized above the nation states, and thank you for reiterating it; I covered a similar point here, and I think you may appreciate the embedded chart within it: https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-global-world-order-is-centralized

A couple questions:

1. Have you considered the possibility that humanity is simply designed, like slave making ant colonies, for parasite overlord relationships? That if if the one we're in is dissolved, another one would simply spring up in it's place? It fundamentally relates to Dostoevsky's Grand Inquisitor - most people do not want responsibility for their actions, the horrors of freedom, they want to be told what to do and if they do it everything will be okay. One doesn't have to look out at the Rothschilds for this - one merely has to look within or talk to those within one's social circle.

2. Have you considered the possibility that this reality is simply a demiurgic Hellhole? Philosophical pessimism - we are never satisfied, we are either striving for something or bored - plus one can only survive in this reality by killing and eating other living things - even a plant screams on a wavelength when it is being consumed. An endless cornucopia of murder. Financial parasitism just adds another layer onto this, but not the deepest one. Schopenhauer thought this reality only makes sense if one considers it a giant prison.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Hi Neo F, and thank you! I am indeed very familiar with Iain Davis’s schematic presentation of the supranational structure to which nations are subordinate. It ought to be the first page of the first lecture of the first university course in International Relations, but….we know that’s not going to happen anytime soon!

To the first question – is humanity simply designed for parasite overlord relationships? I can see how, given the past 7-10 millennia of human history, it might be difficult to refute that. And pre-history, by definition, is somewhat of a void in terms of telling us about human societal structures before recorded history. But I would challenge that proposition by simply asking us to look at this group of people in the comments section of this article – you and I. We are absolutely not prepared to be fodder for parasitic overlords, and nor do we want to be the overlords. We are also not such an insignificant minority that we can be easily dismissed as freakish outliers. If a significant minority of humanity is not designed for parasite overlord relationships, can we be sure that all of humanity is? What is it about us that makes us different? What do we have that others don’t? Can it be acquired or conditioned into the human species in the same way that acquiescence to subjugation appears to have been conditioned into many? In other words, can things be different, especially since we are living proof of a different potential?

To the second question – the demiurgic Hellhole. So, one interpretation of life – all life – is that everything is food for something else, as you point out. And we all know it. Even plants ‘know’ it. So life in this reality is simply one endless killing fest for survival. Which is quite a paradox – everything wants to live, but something else must die to achieve life. Worse still, it’s all pointless because, in the end, we don’t survive. We die! At the point that one accepts this view as the ‘correct’ view of our reality, then the logical thing to do would be to kill yourself in order to end the futility of it all sooner rather than later. Of course, as we know, all the spiritual philosophies have reconciled this conundrum by contriving some intelligence and integrity in the cycle of birth, life, and death. We cannot come to the realisation you have come to without achieving a certain level of consciousness. And reaching that level of consciousness takes time and development. Which is another paradox. We cannot come to a realisation of the horror of reality, until we have participated in it. Even a vegetarian has to participate in the ‘killing’ and eating of plant life.

So I have introduced consciousness into the question, which is unavoidable, since we couldn’t have this debate without it. So maybe the answer lies in consciousness. Consciousness is the reason we have to go through this shitshow to get to another less shitty show? Everything has a cycle and we must go through it. We must start at the bottom, or beginning, of the cycle and keep going. Consciousness is the fuel that takes us through it and we will only know the final and absolute answer to your question when we have arrived at the end. And we can’t know what the ‘end’ is until we have reached it. As a very wise gift card once told me: everything will be all right in the end. If it’s not all right, it’s not the end.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Thanks for the considered response, Rusere.

"If a significant minority of humanity is not designed for parasite overlord relationships, can we be sure that all of humanity is? What is it about us that makes us different? What do we have that others don’t?" I would argue it's a personality type: on the Big 5 those with low extraversion and low agreeableness. Autistic types, basically. This served an evolutionary function to prevent the herd from following each other off the cliff unquestioningly, but the evolutionary niche is meant to be small. And from one perspective this makes the torture of this reality worse: if we didn't see the parasitical setup as a problem then it wouldn't bother us!

"At the point that one accepts this view as the ‘correct’ view of our reality, then the logical thing to do would be to kill yourself in order to end the futility of it all sooner rather than later."

This depends on whether or not one sees a greater meaning to this endless orgy of violence, or even if one doesn't, one may wish to stick around and consume as long as possible, to delay the Void as long as possible. Regarding this, though, and also your broader point about consciousness, I take the Jungian view of God: that he is both all good and all evil, he is everything, and he adds to his infinity by our contribution to this reality. In this ontology what is "good" is what helps us along our own unique path toward our individuation process, while what is "bad" is what distracts us from it. But still, fundamentally it is horrifying, a God comprised of all evil, the merging of God with the demiurge. Still, it is a more satisfying and comprehensive explanation than the traditional religious explanation, I think.

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Personality type could definitely have something to do with it but, as a reason on its own, it seems too deterministic to me. I like the idea of being able to choose who you are, simply because it grants more agency. I baulk at the notion of being a victim of my genes, or some other derivative of determinism. There’s no question that extraversion and low agreeableness both contribute to less fearfulness of being ostracised for wrong-think. But when I examine my life, I can see a tension between my personality and my environment. I can imagine (but obviously can’t be sure of) a different ‘me’ emerging today (in some ways better, in some ways worse) if I’d been exposed to a different environment. It’s the cliched but valid debate over how much of our persona is innate and how much is conditioned. That’s why the cabal take the education system so seriously! But yes, I do see the evolutionary advantage in having a bunch of ‘autistics’ (whatever that means) saying, “Nah, ain’t following all the other lemmings over the cliff.”

I see a contradiction in the Jungian view of God you’ve expressed. Which doesn’t make it wrong, but potential contradictions are always worth exploring. The starting point is God is everything – good and evil. I’m assuming then that this God is the creator from whom we spring. You then suggest that we are consciously choosing (at least some of us are!) the good which advances individuation, and avoiding the evil which distracts us from it. But if God is both things and we are His creation, then why wouldn’t we simply accept the randomness of this good and evil God and unconsciously reflect it in all our choices. Why consciously lean towards the good? Why did this good/evil lotto God give us a conscience that tells us when we’re deviating from the good?

What if God is not good and evil but ONLY good. And what if evil must be presented to us as a choice we can make because, without it being offered to us, we could not know that what we have consciously chosen is in fact ‘good’. You cannot truly know what good is unless you know its opposite.

This framing perhaps presents a less horrific conception of a God that is good and evil. Rather it could be a good and loving God. One who loves us so much that He has given us a taste of the same thing He enjoys in infinite abundance – free will. But free will is not free will unless the choice we make is a conscious one – a choice made in the full awareness of what we are forgoing when we make it. Hence evil is there, but it’s not His nature. Paradoxically, it has to be there to bring us closer to His nature in a truly free choice.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Hi Rusere,

Thank you for the response.

You wrote, "But when I examine my life, I can see a tension between my personality and my environment. I can imagine (but obviously can’t be sure of) a different ‘me’ emerging today (in some ways better, in some ways worse) if I’d been exposed to a different environment." You should look into identical twin studies. Basically, identical twins separated at birth but raised in totally different environments have been rigorously studied. What it found was that environment played a major role in developmental differences between the twins when they were young, but over time the genes took over to the point where they had very similar life outcomes on average (same type of jobs, married same types of women, etc). I think these studies are very helpful in determining how much weight to assign nature versus nurture.

Regarding your ontological conception of good and evil, it's a very standard religious conception, but unfortunately I think it completely fails to address the Epicurean paradox: https://i1.wp.com/www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/epicurean-paradox.jpg

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

I shall take a look at the link you sent me, thanks!

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

I have to say I find the Epicurean ‘paradox’ diagram disappointing. At a high-level it’s classical hyper-rational, binary, left-brain thinking applied to an esoteric subject that doesn’t accommodate this computer / decision-tree mode of thought. I’m not saying that decision-tree mode of thought is invalid. It’s just been poorly applied to a complex subject.

The implication of this decision tree is that, at each node, there are only two possible answers, and worse still, that each of those answers is the ‘right’ answer depending on whether you chose yes or no.

I will now give you an example of where the trap provides an answer that is not the only answer which could resolve the yes/no dilemma set up in the question. If there are other valid answers, then the whole thing takes on the appearance of something designed to serve a pre-set agenda. It’s actually a *pre-programmed* agenda, because it’s based on binary computing logic.

At the node: “Does God want to prevent evil?”, if you answer No, then the single conclusion you are offered is “God is not good / God is not loving”. But that answer is based on a simplistic, indeed binary (!) interpretation of good and evil. And it ignores the road that takes you to good (or evil) – namely free will. If the starting point is free will, and if you assume that free will is the necessary route to the good, then the good cannot be reached without the exercise of free will. And the exercise of free will to choose good cannot take place without the presence of evil.

Under this paradigm, God’s unwillingness to prevent evil does NOT make Him “not good, or not loving”, which is the answer forced by the decision-tree. God’s unwillingness to prevent evil means that God does not want his creations to be MACHINES who have NO choice but to simply wallow in the ‘goodness’ he has created for them. It is the absence of choice that makes something a machine. Thus the existence of evil is *necessary* in order to truly manifest free will. It does not preclude God’s goodness or loving nature.

So that node is just wrong, because if you choose “No”, it takes you to a wrong answer. It’s an answer that reflects no understanding of why free will requires both good and evil to co-exist. And it’s an answer that assumes that a loving/good God would want humans to be machines by not giving them the capacity to CHOOSE whether they want good or evil.

The epicurean paradox has the words “free will” in it, but it doesn’t understand what free will means. The epicurean paradox presents both God and humans as machines. Machines can’t CHOOSE. Humans and God can. Under that paradigm of choice, a loving God should NOT want to prevent evil. That might be a bit hard to wrap one’s mind around…if one doesn’t get the meaning of free will.

Quote from The Magus: “There is only one good definition of God: the freedom that allows other freedoms to exist.”

The Epicurean paradox is not a paradox at all, because paradoxes open up complex truths, they don’t shut them down. The Epicurean paradox is a prison that poses false questions and forces you into false answers.

That’s me tearing up just one node, but the ‘beauty’ of this binary machine thinking is that you only need to tear up one node to tear up the whole thing.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Thanks for the response, Rusere. I hear you, and I appreciate the careful breakdown. You’re right that the Epicurean paradox, especially in chart form, flattens esoteric tensions into binary dead ends, turning theological wrestling into a logic gate. But I still think it performs a useful function in forcing the contradictions in traditional conceptions of God into the open.

Your reply rests on free will as the reconciling mechanism: that God allows evil so that we may freely choose the good. But that’s still a choice to prioritize one divine attribute (freedom) over another (goodness or omnipotence). In other words, it preserves God’s goodness by limiting what he’s “allowed” to do with his power, which starts to look like a theological sleight of hand (this reminds me of the old joke, "Could God microwave a burrito so hot that even he could not eat it?") Why is freedom more essential than the prevention of genocides? Why would a truly good and truly omnipotent being need to rely on a cosmic horror show to produce meaningful moral choice?

I don’t think that’s an easy question or one that can be waved away by invoking consciousness development, either. That route makes sense, but it’s not a rebuttal to the paradox, rather a metaphysical alternative that takes us out of classical theism altogether.

Personally, I think Jung was closer to the mark than Augustine or Aquinas. In Answer to Job, he saw God not as perfectly good but as internally divided and evolving. The God-image at the start of the Bible is wrathful, jealous, unstable. Through human suffering and response (Job, Mary, Christ), something in the divine complex shifts. The Self becomes more integrated, but it’s not morally consistent, it’s psychologically complex. From a gnostic angle, this also makes sense: the God of this world may be powerful, even sincere, but not whole.

That doesn’t resolve the Epicurean paradox, but replaces it with a deeper mystery, I think. So I don’t see the paradox as a full map but a wedge to crack open brittle theology, even if it can’t offer a better structure on its own.

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Helen's avatar

Hello Neo! I think Rusere has responded beautifully, but I'd add this question: what if humanity is designed to be free, or even designed ourselves to be such, but our design has been hijacked by another influence, of a parasitical nature, for its own purposes? And we are currently in the process of freeing ourselves from this again. In other words, where did the designing actually start? And maybe even the needing nutrition from other living things to survive is a part of that. Our having to eat makes us very controllable.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Hi Helen, I think that just begs the question: if God designed humans to be free, but then they were "hijacked", then why did God design this system for humans to be hijacked? See the chart I posted above to Rusere regarding the Epicurean paradox, which I don't think is answerable under traditional ontology or cosmology.

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Helen's avatar

Lorks, this depends on what you understand 'God' to be. I'm personally unable to assume the existence of 'God' as a designer in any way our material brains can comprehend. Particularly, in this case, around designing with a purpose that foresees every possible future interaction with what has been designed by other presences/forces/beings/Gods. It's very hard for us not to project our current material/left-brained/deterministic way of understanding life onto all this. I've given up making any assumptions about deities!

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Kieran Telo's avatar

Looking forward to the next installments and many thanks for some good laughs along the way; the reference to lullabies had me howling,

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Rusere Shoniwa's avatar

Thank you!

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Stegiel's avatar

The rise of Technocracy is from a foundational world view of the 19th century. The underlying Banking Cartel is totally in control of the nation states by the 20th. So naturally as national economics evolves in collaboration with banking control and cartels the system evolves. 1930 saw BIS founded. I like to date the control grid from the founding of BIS.

Chat-GPT states-1. Before WWI, a handful of powerful banking institutions in key financial centers (London, Paris, Berlin, New York) dominated global finance. For example:

* The Rothschilds had major influence across Europe.

* J.P. Morgan wielded massive control over U.S. industrial finance.

* Barings Bank and Schroders were dominant in British imperial finance.

2. Interconnected Financial Elites
There was a tight-knit group of financiers, industrial magnates, and aristocrats who often collaborated behind closed doors. These relationships resembled oligarchic control, where influence was concentrated in a few hands.

3. Colonial and Imperial Banking Systems
The major imperial powers used their banks to control colonies economically. This system was explicitly hierarchical, with the financial core in Europe or the U.S. and the periphery serving its capital needs.

4. Lack of Public Oversight
Most central banks were either private or quasi-private institutions (e.g., the Bank of England before full nationalization), and regulation was minimal by today’s standards. This allowed banks to operate with considerable autonomy and influence.

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Red Pill Poet's avatar

As compelling as it is depressing to those who wish the BRICS was some sort of opposition to we-all-know-what. At least my trusty quote hound did not return empty-mouthed:

“War and the constant threat of war is a ruling-class protection racket under which the unwitting taxpayer is fleeced for vast sums of money transferred to the military industrial complex and the financiers of war who sit at the throne of the Establishment.”

“The pattern is so obvious as to make the reality of it plain – organised crime is so thoroughly grafted onto the System that we must conclude it is the System.”

“...Sustainable Development Goals – the UN charter for global enslavement couched in more lullabies of justice and equality.”

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