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Just a detail, but in case you’re not aware, the translation of “Satoshi Nakamoto”, is “central intelligence.” Since our rulers do seem to be fond of telling us what they are up to this may be a strong hint as to where this particular digital scheme came from.

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Cunliffe has been a source of personal merriment for me for some years. I think it was in 2023 when he said the BOE had absolutely no plans at all to get rid of cash before going on to explain that the plan was to pay all public sector workers in rCBDC which should finally see-off cash for good.

When Cunliffe said that he “would probably refer to it as central bank digital money, because money is a means of payment, rather than central bank digital currency” he was referring the wholesale CBDC (wCBDC) which is envisaged to act as digital reserves. When he spoke about paying the public sector with CBDC he was talking about retail CBDC (rCBDC) which will effectively serve as a “currency.”

Cunliffe has at times said there are no plans to introduce a rCBDC except that there are, providing the “regulatory environment” suits. I absolutely guarantee that it will, either for a UK rCBDC or for the appropriately approved stablecoins or tokenised bank deposits.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/report/2025/digital-pound-progress-update

I appreciate the useful distinction you have made between “currency” and payment systems. I agree that what is being rolled out are new programmable payment systems. I would go further and say it is an “interoperable” network of new programmable payment systems. A currency is just a transferable medium of exchange, I think I have written about the MAK (tins of mackerel) that US prisoners used as currency before the governors deliberately devalued it. The state flooded prisons with suspiciously deposited stacks of tins of mackerel in communal areas, causing MAK hyperinflation and rendering it practically useless as a prisoner's currency.

I maintain that the issuance of a central bank liability in the form of, for example, rCBDC is intended to serve as a currency, the clue is in the name despite Cunliffe’s silly argument that this was some sort of mistake. I suggest you you that it isn’t an error at all. Digital currency is not a replacement for fiat currency it is a digital form of fiat currency, that is to say it is a programmable central bank liability. The debt basis of issuance is not notably different as far as I can tell.

If we consider why gold is such a valuable asset (that can also be used as a currency) it is because we collectively value it. I do not suggest in the book, at least I hope I don’t, that Bitcoin is a “new form of gold” only that oligarchs want it to be a new form of gold for the age of programmable digital currencies transferred through programmable payment systems and settled on unified programmable ledgers. A process for which some sort of digital gold asset is perfect. Of course, they could just tokenise real gold, which is another plan also underway.

A Network State has to be able to issue its own “digital currency.” This is the “backbone” of the ledger system which enables it to control the lives of its “customers” through the smart contracts managing every transaction on the Network State (neostate) ledger---almost certainly a permissioned blockchain though, notably, the NRx is a bit coy about clarifying permissioned access. (though that is obviously what they mean)

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/10/investigative-reports/city-states-without-limits-part-1/

I noted in the book that for nonbank entities the OCC acts as the regulator for the federal qualified nonbank payment stablecoin issuer. I also noted that the OCC is uniquely independent. The US Congress reports:

“The Secretary of the Treasury may not delay or prevent the issuance of any rule or the promulgation of any regulation by the Comptroller of the Currency [OCC], and may not intervene in any matter or proceeding before the Comptroller of the Currency.”

It is no surprise therefore that the Praxians’ (NEONERDS’) Erebor bank, that consolidates their control of the crypto-industry, was granted full market approval by the OCC in virtually no time at all.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2026/04/investigative-series/praxian-kill-chain-part-1/

I think if we are expecting so-called regulatory systems, in the US or anywhere else, to function as real regulatory systems we are barking up a “very wrong” tree. They’re rubber stamps for those who can afford the rubber.

As you highlight, I also stress that the GENIUS Act ensures that stablecoins “will not take the form of a national currency, bank deposit, interest-bearing instrument, or a security under federal securities laws.” I fully acknowledge that stablecoins are not supposed to be “currency.” I then go on to argue that this is, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless distinction from our perspective.

The new programmable payment systems are designed to enable us, the people, to use rCBDC, tokenised deposits and stablecoins as if they were currency. Bridging card payment systems have already been introduced to enable us to make payment in the high street using stablecoins. Of course, the oligarchs also want to treat “digital currencies,” in the wider sense, as “money” with the money supply, incorporating assets, stocks and bonds, remaining firmly under their programmable control.

As you know, this control of the money supply has been the sole purview of the transnational capitalist oligarchs for a few centuries. The NEONERDS are relative upstarts. The question I ask is why would they be allowed to participate in this grift as I strongly argue that they have indeed been brought into it.

The mechanism for creating “money” as debt has not changed. The question you rightly ask is when, for example, Tether issues a stablecoin, is any new money created. You suggest it is not, I maintain that it is.

US stablecoins are cryptoassets backed, in USDT’s case, by the USD and other dollar instruments. Despite the US eye-watering national debt, the advent of stablecoins (and similar digital “currencies”) enables the continued expansion of the issuance of debt as “money.” That is to say, though “officially” the issuance of, for instance, USDT does not “require” the creation of new debt, such stablecoins are obviously intended to further facilitate the process of “money creation.” Not to mention spreading that liability globally. New debt will be issued to back “payment stablecoins” which “are obviously designed to function as digital dollars.”

So are the NEONERDS in control of the issuance of the stablecoins, i.e., invited to join the money creation grift? They absolutely are in my view. Not least of all by virtue of the fact that they currently control the US government and have just set up Erebor Bank to provide their “digital currency” issuing partners the necessary liquidity, if they deem it appropriate.

Having read the book, many thanks btw, I am sure you are aware of the emphasis I put on public-private partnerships. I am not suggesting that the NEONERDS are “muscling in on central bank, or commercial bank, money creation,” rather that they have been invited to join it.

Not only do they control to so-called crypto regulators, having been instrumental in the design of the regulations, now they're managing the US crypto industry’s access to liquidity and they are deeply invested in many of the leading issuers. In fact, the current US digital currency industry has been brought into existence primarily by the NEONERDS and their private sector partners.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/10/investigative-series/the-chain-of-command-how-facebooks-libra-bank-regulators-and-paypal-built-a-new-world-currency/

Over the three pieces, you have offered some very incisive observations and I thank you for your excellent critique that has made me rethink many of the points I made in the book. With regard to the transformation of the international monetary system, much of how it will eventually pan out remains to be seen imho.

If I was to put my money on what it will eventually look like, I will stick with the thesis I offered in the book:

“All forms of currency transactions (whether using e-money or stablecoins or traditional digital fiat currency) will be interoperable. All transactions will be connected to the Finternet by APIs, and all inter-bank settlement will ultimately resolve using wholesale CBDC (wCBDC): the two-tier monetary scam for the digital transformation.”

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